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Rana, Amman - wrote on 4/24/2010 1:55:12 PM
Comment:as a comment on the original topic " Jesus peace be upon Him between Islam & Christianity ", i just want to ask the Christians how can they explain the trinity? are 3 equal 1? No, so this way u believe in 3 gods not only One God!!!
the trinity is of an extraordinary importance in your belief, now the question that poses itself: is there ANY verse in the Bible in which the term "trinity" is mentioned literally not only as a concept? the answer is NO, but this is the most significant dogmatic belief in Christianity, so did Jesus PBUH missed to teach it?!!
, - wrote on 4/20/2010 9:22:03 AM
Comment:poop poop jesus was the son of god
jel, swelinton - wrote on 4/17/2010 4:37:54 AM
Comment:I am not that good of a debater.But, i would want to say one thing to all.Jesus Christ is the son of God like how we are the sons and daughters of God. we were created by God, same way God created Jesus .But Jesus was created By Himself as powerfull .as mighty as loving as kind as him.HE CREATED HIM in other word i think i could say he cloned himself.WELL, HE CREATED US TOO ,BUT NOT BY CLONING or something.therefore since jesus and us were created we all are sons and daughters. and he is our father as he is Jesus` father
sarfaraz, kolkata - wrote on 3/24/2010 10:53:57 PM
Comment:I can prove it through a simple calculation that Hazrat Ayesha cannot be of 9 years of when she got married:-
1)Hazrat Ayesha's elder sister Asma who was 10 year elder to her, died at the age of exact 100 on the 73rd Hijra (prophethood calender) so automatically if u minus 73-100=27 and if u minus 10 that gives u 17 rite I hape u can do calculation and Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) married Hazrat Ayesha after the 1st hijra so that means she was 18 when she got married to him.
2) Boys under the age of 15 were not allowed to participate in the battlefield they were sent back home but Hazrat Ayesha participated in the battle of Badr and Uhud. So joe do ur research nicely.
sarfaraz, Kolkata - wrote on 3/22/2010 10:58:52 PM
Comment:Joe baltimore: The Mushriks of Makkah offerred him to become the head of the tribe so the question arises if they themselves wanted him to rule over them,then why did why did Muhammad (PBUH) had to wage a war to get them enslaved that's a Big ?.
If u can answer that.If u can please u have the holy spirit probably the holy ghost can help u.
sarfaraz, Kolkata - wrote on 3/22/2010 6:54:49 PM
Comment:For ur answer regarding Hazrat Ayesha getting married at the age of 9 plz check this site u will get ur answer.This shows that u have absolutely no idea regarding the teaching & principles of Islam.
sarfaraz , Kolkata - wrote on 3/21/2010 7:38:45 PM
Comment:Now coming to your point about the sacred month mate you never read the previous part. The Quran was revealed over a long stretch of time. when problems arose, God sent a resolution. At the time of these specific verses, muslims were being tortured and persecuted. the muslims never stuck back, they always turned the other cheek, because islam is PEACE. then, God instructed to defend themselves. by islamic law, we are not allowed to fight, unless attacked first that is what is written in this entire sura that when the mushriks advanced the sacred mosque they were received a revelation from Allah that do not be afraid fight in the right cause and even if you get killed dont worry u will go to Jannah because u fought in the right cause but there were certain rules as well for the fight just check out this how eloquent the religion is first it says before u start the war give them an ultimatum of four months so that they can think about their acts second no children or women should get hurt third if anyone wants peace not only give them peace but take them to a place where they are fully secured Alhumdolillah!Masha-Allah!and in all your points I do not find a single reason why there was a necessity of killing people and how will it benefits them? Well u stated that the Mushriks were peacefull people mate u have absolutely no clue what their tribes were. When Muhammad claimed prophethood the mushriks of makkah were the most uncivilised people on Earth they use to bury their new born baby girls alive in the belly of earth and they use to marry their step mother when their father died.
sarfaraz, Kolkata - wrote on 3/20/2010 7:34:47 PM
Comment:Here in Sura 9:4 where it clearly says there was a peace treaty sighned between the Muslims and the Mushriks.
[9:4] If the idol worshipers sign a peace treaty with you, and do not violate it, nor band together with others against you, you shall fulfill your treaty with them until the expiration date. GOD loves the righteous
Further ahead it says in Sura 9:5 [9:5] Once the Sacred Months are past, (and they refuse to make peace) you may kill the idol worshipers when you encounter them, punish them, and resist every move they make. If they repent and observe the Contact Prayers (Salat) and give the obligatory charity (Zakat), you shall let them go. GOD is Forgiver, Most Merciful.
sarfaraz, Kolkata - wrote on 3/20/2010 7:11:20 PM
Comment:Now coming to your point Sura 9:29 but before that I would like you to read this Sura 9:28"O ye who believe! Truly the Pagans are unclean; so let them not, after this year of theirs, approach the Sacred Mosque. And if ye fear poverty, soon will Allah enrich you, if He wills, out of His bounty, for Allah is All-knowing, All-wise
In this sura Allah clearly says that when the pagan approach the sacred mosque then in reply to sura Allah says "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Apostle, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued this is another translation [9:29] You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture - until they pay the due tax, willingly or unwillingly.
Thats why we say do read the translation because different translator will have different choice of words but even though both the translation have one thing common that the Allah says to retaliate when the Pagan approach the sacred mosque and if u read right from the Surah 9 u will come to know that there was a treaty which was signed between the mulims and the mushriks of Makkah and the mushriks broke that treaty.So always read in context do not quote out of context.
Sarfaraz, Kolkata - wrote on 3/17/2010 10:54:27 PM
Comment:This is in response to Joe from Baltimore.
Well Joe my friend in which language does I AM means God If that is english mate you need to get back to school once again and if he said that I am God . Well whatever you wrote thats according to your thinking, very well lets check out what the scripture says.because whatever you and I say its absolutely zero. I want to ask you did Jesus (PBUH) speak english? We all know he spoke Hebrew isnt it Joe I hope this is written in your personal version Bible which ever version it is so the question is about which prophet did Jesus (PBUH) speak in the Song of Solomon 5:16? Plz Joe its a sincere request to you and to my christian brothers and sisters please check it out in the hebrew text which is closest to the original text and in the Hebrew text, if you have a friend who knows hebrew please verify with them This is the original text says in HEBREW. "ChKV MMThQYM VKLV MChMDYM (MUHAMMADIM) ZH DVDY VZH Ur'yY BNVTh YUrVShLM" My friends Jesus (PBUH) SPOKE ABOUT MUHAMMAD (PBUH) YES my friend BY NAME HE IS MENTIONED IN BIBLE AND THE NAME WORD USED IS MUHAMMADIM WHERE "iM" STANDS AS A PLURAL OF RESPECT. which in english got translated to "ALL together Lovely" Coming to your tranlation mate either you have not read it or you cannot read what the text says here is the translation says.[9:29] You shall fight back against those who do not believe in GOD, nor in the Last Day, nor do they prohibit what GOD and His messenger have prohibited, nor do they abide by the religion of truth - among those who received the scripture. Mate it does not say FIGHT but it says FIGH BACK there is a difference because this is during a war. Allah says if the peace treaty is broken by the unbelievers .If I ask u that today the army of US goes and kill the Vietnamese saying that they were told by their general during the Vietnam war they were told that wherever u find a Vietnamese u kill them does that sentence is applicable today U will uuuuhhhhhhhh! no actually that is during the war mate this sura is also during the war where Allah says if the non believers break the treaty then give them 4 months time to think about that they have done a mistake and if they donot repent then declare a war. Now coming to your sencd point this is the actual Sura [47:4] If you encounter (in war) those who disbelieve, you may strike the necks. If you take them as captives you may set them free or ransom them, until the war ends. Had GOD willed, He could have granted you victory, without war. But He thus tests you by one another. As for those who get killed in the cause of GOD, He will never put their sacrifice to waste. Again it has been said during war mate how came the difference between your sura and mine is difference of chalk and cheese. Eigther you have not read it and just giving the false comments as it has been posted on Bibleprobe.com just saying out of context.
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